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Re: Krish"s question on the 3 typesof Chetanas

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Parthasarati Dileepan • December 17, 1995 


On 16 Dec 95 23:03:37 EST Sri. V. Sadagopan said:
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>MUKTA JIVAN OR FREED SOUL:  A Baddha Jiva , who by a study of the
> sastras at the feet of a qualified Acharya acquires the correct knowledge
>about the nature of the Body, Jivan, Achetana and Iswaran or Paramatman.
>He or She then experiences a desire for Moksha( Freedom from the
>cycles of Births and Deaths) and becomes  a Mumukshu. When at  the end
>of earthly existence, such a person casts the mortal coils and the Jivan


   Is "mumukshu" an intermediate stage between baddha
   and muktha?  Are acharyas such as Jeer, mumukshu?



>NITYA JIVANS OR EVER FREE SOULS: Some examples of them are Garuda,
>Adi Sesha and Vishvaksena. They as  a class have not even a shadow
>of the touch of Karma, and therefore have not been the victims of Samsara or
>the
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>empirical world of suffering.


   Is AncanEyar a nithyasUri?  What is the status of
   nithyasUris during praLaya kaalam?


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>The difference between the Nityas and Muktas is that  the Mukta attained
>the perfect bliss of  residence in Vaikuntam and  service to the Paramatman
>AT A POINT IN TIME ,WHEREAS THE NITYAS HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING
>IT FROM " BEGINNINGLESS " TIME .
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    How does our sampradayam differ from Dvaitham?  Is it
    correct that in Dvaitham there are differences among the
    mukthaas, but for us all the mukthaas are same?  Further,
    for us, there are only two kinds of chEthanaas, perumaaL and
    the rest of us.  If this is so, how does differences among
    nithyaas, and differences between nithyas and mukthas
    explained?


requesting your patience for my ignorance,


Dileepan