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Re: Significance of Karthigai for Vaishnavas

From: Jaisimman s/o Rangasamy (
Date: Wed Nov 24 1999 - 23:19:34 PST

Dear Krishna Kalale Prabhu,

Hare Krishna.

I never said that it is indicated by any Purana.
As far as I know, those who follow the sad agamas do not accept anything
that is against the Supremacy of Narayana.

The incident pertaining to the jyoti of Lord Shiva is a Shaivite account
often related to kartikai, sokappan and Thiruvannaamalai. Only God knows
from where if has come from, if at all it is present somewhere supposedly
authentic in the first place. It appears in the verses of the Nayanmars etc.
and the claim (note : I am not making a definitive statement here) is that
it is in some Purana.

I would like to verify if this is true, ie. I want to get to the bottom of
this account.
If it is so, where does it appear and why is it not acceptable shastrically
If this is not true, how did it actually come about ?

This is what exactly what I want to know. That is why I have asked the
question in the first place.

Please enlighten me.

Your servant,
R. Jai Simman

----- Original Message -----
From: Krishna Kalale <>
To: 'Jaisimman s/o Rangasamy' <>;
Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: Significance of Karthigai for Vaishnavas

> Asmadgurubhyo namah
> srimathe srivan satagopa sri vedanta desika yatindra mahadesikaya namah
> sri lakshminrisimha divya paduka sevaka srivan satagopa sri narayana
yatindra mahadesikaya namaha
> Dear sri Jai Simman,
> Please indicate to us what purana this "shaivite" episode is given.
> Krishna Kalale
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jaisimman s/o Rangasamy []
> Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 6:40 PM
> To:
> Subject: Significance of Karthigai for Vaishnavas
> Dear Vaishnavas,
> Hare Krishna.
> A good lady recently asked me about the significance of Karthigai for
> Vaishnavas.
> Any one could help shed some light on the basis of Alvar Pasurams, etc. ?
> Also, the Shivaites celebrate this by burning sokappan, commemorating Lord
> Shiva's appearing as a jyoti to settle the dispute between Lord Brahma and
> Lord Vishnu as to who the supreme is. This of course is not accepted by
> sattvika puranas and those who follow them, ie. the Vaishnavas.
> What is the Vaishnava opinion on this, with due reference to authentic
> scriptural sources ?
> Vaishnava dasanu dasan,
> R. Jai Simman
> Singapore