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Re: How to identify a true bhAgavatha?

From: Madhavakkannan V (
Date: Tue Oct 30 2001 - 19:43:29 PST

SrImathE Ramanujaya namah:
Dear SrI Srikanth,

I empathise with your sentiments. Do not feel hurt and bad about another 
Srivaishnava's remarks.

No doubt we can not tolerate any disparaging remarks on our AchAryan. Our 
AchAryan is the walking God on earth. But if some Srivaishnava (about whom 
we have high regards) makes such a statement, all that we need to do (us, 
being Srivaishnavas too) is to pray to the Lord and to our AChAryan seeking 
Their forgiveness.. on this person.

But at no point of time, let us commit BhAgawatha apachAram by avoiding any 
kaimkaryam / service to him (which we have been doing). It is hi praarandha 
karmA that makes him speak such manner; and ours to listen to such 
statements. All is Bhagawath sankalpam.

We need to only remind ourselves of PeriyAzhwAr's line.. pEsuvaar adiyAr 
emthammai viRkavum thuNindhavargaL..

Alternatively, if you know him well, you may give your piece of mind sharing 
your hurt feelings.
Narayana Narayana
NarayaNa dAsan madhavakkannan

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Srikanth H. R." <>
Subject: How to identify a true bhAgavatha?
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:21:00 +0530

Sashtanga namaskarams to all Bhagavatas.

I have been a silent reader and enjoyer of the Bhakti-list
for quite some time. I have had this question within me for
quite some time. Please advise on this.

How can we identify a TRUE bhagavata?
I know a little bit on this...
A true bhagavatha has no ego, always considers himself
as servants of other bhagavathas and yearns to do selfless
kainkaryam to them etc ....

But in this modern world, how can we tell a TRUE bhagavatha
from others?

This question has highlighted itself because of a personal
experience I had a few weeks back.
I know a very elderly person who is very well versed in
philosophy and SriVaishnavism.He is an expert in Vedas
and Upanishads. He performs Aradhanam to SrimanNarayana daily.I
respected him very much till recently and considered him
a true bhagavatha.
But a few weeks back, he spoke very lowly about My Acharyan
and My Acharya lineage.

(I would not like to mention the name of the Matham/Ashramam I belong
to, since this has created problems on the list in the past).

I felt very hurt at that point but did not say anything at that time. But 
since that day, I have serious doubts....
I have not visited him since that episode...

I request all the learned bhagavatas in the group to
clarify and clear my doubts.

If I am not wrong, doing service to an unworthy person
is also not correct.

My sincere apologies at the feet of all bhagavatas if I have written
anything wrong.

Swami Desikan Tiruvadigale Saranam,

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