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Re: Gaudiya Vaishnavism

From: Krishna Kalale (kkalale_at_qualcomm.com)
Date: Wed May 08 1996 - 19:42:46 PDT

jagannathan writes:

>
>At the outset one surrenders to Krishna through the Guru by following
>the 5 principles of "Anukulasya sankalpah:, PrAtikulasya varjanam;
>raksisyatiti vishvaso; goptrtwe varaNam; tatha atma nikshepa
>karpanye.  Having done this one obtains the mantra from the
>Kali-santara Upanishad  "HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA
>HARE HARE I  HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE  II
>
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>

I am trying to understand the concept of surrender from "chaitanya system".
I feel that their view of surrender is not exactly same as the shadanga
prapatti of visistadvaita.  In fact They are similar but the goal is not
similar. In fact in the "Bhakti rasamrita sindhu" their methodology goes
closer to:

1.      increase bhakti by chanting
2.      and finally attain samadhi in ecstasy and God-Love
3.      Reach Goloka brndavana

This is bhakti yoga minus "agnihotra and other karma yoga related issues".  

If I am wrong, I would like to see a citation to a "formal chaitanya system
work" with reference to the 6 angas of prapatti or atleast a mapping to
this.  I have personally talked to some stalwart "hare krishna" mission
people. I still feel my view is accurate.  In fact in one of my previous
mails, "Gorkeshava Das" of Hawwaii agreed with me on this.

In fact I can confidently state that the shadanga prapatti system is a
special characteristic of pancharatra system and some samhitas which are
quoted predominantly by visistadvaita works.

Dont get me wrong.  the doctrine of surrender is probably common to many
systems including christianity but the methodology and attributes are
distinct to visistadvaita.

Krishna Kalale