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Re: An ineteresting episode involving Nadadur Ammal & 'adiyEn'

From: T.V.Venkatesh (
Date: Sat Jul 17 1999 - 12:34:27 PDT

Dear Sri Venkatesh,

adiyEn!!! heard that this episode was involving Swami 
EmberumAnAr and ThirukkOttiyUr nambi  when the former went to 
Sri Nambi's house for learning the ThirumanthirArtham. It is said 
that EmberumAnAr went to Nambi's house many times, and every 
time he used to refer himself as 'Naan" and later realised the 
meaning of the sentence " Naan setthu nee vaa". Only after this 
Nambi gave the Thirumanthira upadEsam to EmberumAnAr.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

adiyEn RAmAuja dAsan

Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh

Sri Venkatesh Elayavalli wrote :-
> Dear members,
> Once when Sri Nadadurammal was young, he wanted to learn
> Sri Bashyam from his father Nadadur alvan. Alvan, however,
> asked Ammal to go to Engal Alvan (also known as Vishnu chiththar)
> at Tiruvellarai and learn it from him. So, Ammal went from Kanchi to
> Tiruvellarai and knocked at the door of engal alvan. When Engal
> Alvan asked to who it was knocking at the door, Nadadurammal is
> said to have replied as 'I' (nNaan). To this, Engal Alvan replied
> "nNaan seththu nNii vaa" meaning "Let the conciept of "I" die and then
> return". So Nadadruammal returned to Kanchi and recounted the
> events to his father. Nadadur Alvan then told ammal to giveup the
> sense of Ego and 'I' and start refering to himself as "Adiyen"
> (your obedient servant). Having shed his ego, Nadadur ammal went
> back to Tiruvellarai and became a sishya of Engal Alvan.Engal Alvan
> also came to be  known as Ammal Acharyan, whose descendents till
> today go by this name.
> aazhvaar emperumaanaar acharyarkal jeeyar thiruvadikalE Saranam,
> Adiyen
> Venkatesh Elayavalli
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