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Date: Tue Jul 14 1998 - 09:39:34 PDT
Sri Mathe Narayanaya Namaha Sri Rukmani Sametha Sri Venkatakrishna swAminE Namaha Sri Mathe Ramanujaya Namaha I take this invitation from Sri Mani for all to participate in this discussion. I feel personal opinions play a major role in such discussions and it is upto some scholars like Sri Mani, Sri Sadagopan, Sri Sudharsan, Sri Anbil swamy and others whom I have not mentioned here, to correct me, the siriyavan, if I am wrong. Speculation will be in everybody's mind about every thing. For argument sake let us agree that we do not want to accept anything told as such by our ancestors, achAryAs and other scholars. But if we are not going to listen to the words of THE SUPREME BHAGWAN, who else are we going to listen to. In my opinion, all the works of our Great AchAryAs and the AruLicheyals of the AzhwArs are in one way or other related to the Most Sacred Bhagavadh Gita, which was given to this world by Sri KrishNa Himself. So finally it all boils down to that we are listening only to what THE SUPREME BHAGAWAN has said, thro our AzhwArs and AchAryAs. I would also like to quote here the work of Sri ManavALa MAmunigaL, Ubadesa Rathina mAlai, in which he writes, "MunnOr mozhindha murai thappAmal kEttu PinnOrndhu thAm adhanaip pEsAdhE - tham nenjil thOtrinadhE solli idhu suddha ubadEsa vara vArra dhenbar moorkar avAr" ("MunnOr mozhindha murai" - All the traditions and culture that were told by our ancestors, "thappAmal kEttu" - listen to them promptly, "pinnOrndhu thAm adhanaip pEsadhE" - Don't argue with that,as all these traditions and cultures were lined up by our ancestors, as per the PerumAL ThiruvuLLam. "tham nenjil thOtrinadhE solli idhu suddha ubadEsa vara vArra dhenbar"- The people, who feels or boasts that, whatever they think only is right, arguing with what our ancestors told, "moorkar avAr"- are those, who are without brains (Buddhi Heenan)) So when one cen agree to it that, if we are not to listen to what THE SUPREME BHAGAWAN says, we have none to listen to, they shall also agree to it that all that told by our AchAryAs and AzhwArs and other scholars were told with Bhagavadh AnugrahA only and hence that is also to be listened without arguments. However, in my opinion, we are not prevented to find out the basis on what our ancestors have lined up our Sampradhayams. This is only the knowledge part and this does not mean offending our ancestors. So coming back to the instruction to the neophyte issue, as Sri Mani has said in his posting, all that our AchAryAs have said are for neophytes. It is not only, Sri Ram Gopalaswamy who claims himself to be a neopyte. Instead, we all of us are neophytes of a kind. None of us know fully, what is told in the VEdAs and ShAstrAs. So it is only to enlighten all the neophytes (which of course, is us) our AchAryAs have taken so much pain to explain what are our rituals, thro' the VEdAs and ShAstrAs. Please do correct me if I am wrong in any of my above words. adiyEn RAmAnuja dAsan, Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh.