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Date: Thu Jan 25 1996 - 15:00:05 PST
I have not explained myself on a brief comment about Moksha, which resulted in Mani's rebuttal. Samsara is fear, pain etc caused by forgetfulness about one's relationship with God. Moksha is reestablishment of such a relationship on a permanent basis without a moment's interruption. There is no interruption of such service because of worldly pleasure, pain, heat, cold etc. There is definitely both pleasure and pain as a result of dealing with Narayana. Eg Srirangam was occupied by Muslim invaders for about 30 years. Vedanta Desikar stayed for 12 of these years in a village in Karnataka crying to the Lord everyday to come back and allow His devotees to worship as before. Meerabai sings in one song "There is no comfort that I have not sacrificed for you. I have nothing left to give. Yet you are not appearing before me...". The Gopis were crying everyday of their lives after Krishna left Vrindavana for Mathura. Acharyas feel great pain for people struggling in samsara but who are yet unwilling to take advice on how to get out of it. The opposite of this is pleasure on seeing the Lord, doing Kirtana, doing His Thiruvaradhanai, decorating Him with garlands. This kind of pleasure and pain starts just before Moksha and continues for ever. Jaganath.