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Re: Doubts reg: Vali Vadham

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Nanmaaran • January 29, 2003 


 Dear Lakshminarasimhan, 
I Intend to have a logical approach towards anything and gave the supporting slokams from Valmiki Ramayanam. Please refer the Literature or atleast check with a learned person before replying fast. For your recent response too, kindly refer Aranya kandam Sargam 44 Slokam 29 where Valmiki says that Rama removed the skin after killing maricha and returned to janasthana.

Regards, 

Nanmaaran
 "Lakshmi Narasimhan "  wrote:Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha

Dear Swamin,
"if you cant somehow get it alive, atleast get the skin which will be 
liked by me" was a statement that was made to show/highlight the 
beauty of the deer. Every statement should not be interpreted 
literally. Some people say, even if you mortgage your head you should 
get this done. Can this be done? And, if we make it look like, the 
udharana-purusha like Sri Rama, kills an innocent deer just for his 
wife's pleasure what would everyone think of? Even if Rama really 
killed that deer and the deer was not an asura, can we think he would 
have skinned it? On one side we praise Rama for giving saranagathi 
even to the worst enemy Ravana who grabbed his wife and on the other 
side do we need to insult his Pourusham by just saying that he killed 
the deer for his wife? And can we think that Rama(the master of the 
asthras) did not know an asthra by which he could have made the deer 
faint? What I have heard from elders is that, Rama knew it was a 
false deer. He ran behind it to make Sita happy and after Sita was 
out of the vicinity(because he cannot kill anyone in her presence due 
to her karunyam, example - kara-dhooshana samharam - sita was sent 
inside the house by rama) he killed the deer and the asura in that 
deer form shouted in Rama's voice and confirmed that he was a false 
deer. Please do not think I am trying to blame. But, we must really 
try to get the actual understanding from our elders and not by just 
reading books. That was the reason why Shri Ramanujar used a 
word "Tanmathaanusaarena" instead of "Tadaanusaarena". If you think I 
am really wrong in what I am saying, kindly forgive me and I won't 
comment on your statements any further. It is only out of interest 
and concern I am writing this mail and not because I want to blame 
you.

If you think I am wrong, kindly mail me back. My humble apologies in 
case, even by smallest means, I have hurt you.

Please do mail me back to this ID. Please do not post this message in 
the group. 

Yatheendra Pravanam Vandhe RAMYA Jaamaataram Munim

Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan,
Lakshmi Narasimhan

--- In bhakti-list@yahoogroups.com, Nanmaaran wrote:
> Dear Swati,
> Note that there was a plan set by ravana to send Maricha as a 
Golden Deer to attract Seetha. 
> In Aranya kandam Sargam 36 Slokam 17.
> Ravana says to maricha that "you go as a Golden Deer with silver 
dots on your skin and roam in front of rama's ashram in the vicinity 
of Seetha". Same is repeated by ravana again in Sargam 40 Sloka 17.
> In Aranya Kandam Sargam 43 Sloka 4
> Lakshmana says to Rama that " i suspect this golden deer to be that 
maricha "(whose life was spared earlier).
> Keeping this in mind, let us see your question.(why did he kill 
deer when seetha asked only to catch it alive and wanted as a pet).
> In Aranya kandam Sargam 43 Sloka 18.
> Seetha tells rama that "if you cant somehow get it alive, atleast 
get the skin which will be liked by me"
> I think that your question is answered now.
> Regards,
> Nanmaaran
> 
> 
> 
> 
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