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Re: saranagathi & karma===question

From: TV Venkatesh/FXSLF/SEC/SANMAR (tvv1_at_sanmargroup.com)
Date: Mon Jan 21 2002 - 23:51:05 PST

srImathE rAmAnujAya namaha
srImadh varavara munayE namaha

Dear Smt Raji,

The meaning of those Sri AndAL's verses are to be read like this. She goes
to say that once we (the jeevAtmAs) get  Bhagavath sambhandam, out of His
pure love towards us, and henceforth doing kainkaryam to Him by either
reciting (vAyinAl pAdi), or even just think about Him (manathinAl
sindhikka), or pay obeisance with flowers (thoomalar thoovi thozhudhu),  He
will either neglect the past misdeeds (here to be interpreted as the karma)
{this is the vadagalai position} or consider the past misdeeds as bhOgyam
for Him {this is the thenkalai position} and get us absolved of them  If
this is so, what about the ones that we have earned in this birth. Sri
AndAL says, even those will be gone like an ash when contact is established
with fire.

poya pizhayum puhutharuvAn - He removes the past misdeeds from our account

ninranavum - the remaining ones in this birth,

theeyinil thoosagum - Just like, anything that falls into fire will turn
into ashes.


AzhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam
adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan
Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh




AzhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyar thiruvadigaLE saraNam
adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan
Thirumalai Vinjamoor Venkatesh



                                                                                        
                    RAJI SRIDHAR                                                        
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                    21-01-02             ===question                                    
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Pranams

After reading this and Sriman Krishna's mail and
Sriman's Prabhu's reply on Karma, I have a doubt.
Hope someone clarify this.

"Poya pizhayum puhutharuvan ninranavum theeyinil
thoosagum"

What exactly Andal is conveying in this?

Pranams
raji sridhar


--- tg_ram <tg_ram@yahoo.com> wrote:
> SrImatE nigamAnta-mahaa-dESikaaya nama:
> thanjap-para-gatiyait-thandharuLvOn vaazhiyE !
> senthamizh thoopuL thiru-venkaTavan vaazhiyE !
>
>
> Obviously,  "SaraNAgati" in the sense of
> "high-degree of
> Surrenderedness to SrIman-nArAyaNa" does not
> immediately cause  the
> physical/gross/material body to disappear nor the
> sins/merits that
> must be experienced through the gross body.












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