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From: Sampathkumar Anand Home (
Date: Mon Feb 01 1999 - 22:42:02 PST

Shrimathe Lakshmi Narasimha Parabrahmane Namaha!
Shrimathe Seetha Ramachandra Parabrahmane Namaha!
Shri AachAryan Thiruvadigale Saranam!

Dear Bhaktaas:

NamO NarayanA!

Adiyen fully identify with Shri Srinivasan's feelings while reciting
the Charama Sloka. The first person recital has an effect and
for sometime, from the time Adiyen learnt it, Adiyen did not recite it for
same reason.

However, after the greatest opportunity of performing Samashranam
and the ultimate event of Bharanyasam [Saranagathi] Adiyen has started
reciting - as directed by the Lord and HH Shri Azhagiya Singar.

However, Adiyen still feels a bit nervous when Adiyen recites the Sloka in
its first
person effect.

We should find a way of reciting this - so that it signifies the statement
as the statement from Sriman Narayana himself.

Knowledgeable Bhaktaas can let us know if the suggestion by
Shri. Srinivasan is worth considering or a better way is available.

Ramanuja dasan
[Sampathkumar Anand]

NamO NarayanA!

Shri AachAryan Thiruvadigale Saranam!
Shrimathe Seetha Ramachandra Parabrahmane Namaha!
Shrimathe Lakshmi Narasimha Parabrahmane Namaha!
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Subject: Digest bhakti.v003.n251

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>    001 - Anita Shanker <ashanker@b - Hello...
>    002 -         - Question on charam slokam
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>Subject: Question on charam slokam
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>Please accept adiyens pranamams.
>Adiyen has a question in relation to Charama slokam. Everytime adiyen
recites it
>(irrespective of the time or place), adiyen feels uncomfortable. This is
>because, the slokam was given in "First Person" by Lord Krishna to Arjuna.
>meaning of this slokam has been well discussed in this and other forums.
>adiyen will not discuss the details). Hence, when adiyen recites it, this
>thought runs through in the mind, as if adiyen is suggesting the concept of
>surrender to Perumal. Adiyen has considered adding a "Sri Bhagavan Uvacha"
>before reciting this sacred slokam, to appreciate and experience this
>instead of constantly debating the right and wrong of the "First Person"
>Adiyen is fully aware of the consequences of breaching the general
>for this slokam, but being uncomfortable with this present predicament, and
>unable to change one's mind (now that this has ingrained itself well, and
is not
>looking to leave), hence this attempt.
>Adiyen was wondering if other bhagavathas have felt this, or is adiyen
alone in
>this? Also, if there is someone who has felt this way, adiyen would like to
>as to how to get over it.
>Sriman Narayana Thiruvadigale saranam
>adiyen, Ramanuja dasan
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