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2 questions

From: Kalyani Krishnamachari (
Date: Tue Feb 10 1998 - 14:57:34 PST


I request our bhakti members' pardons for raising some ignorant 
questions (as usual!).

Can someone please clarify the following doubts for me?

1. What is the reason for some professional prabhandam goshti parAyaNam
chanters pronouncing words ending with "enREn" as "ennEn" and
"enRu" as "ennu"?  

amalanAdhipiran 1st pAsuram last line - 

tirukkamala pAdam vanden kaNNin uLLana vokkinRadE

is chanted as 

tirukkamala pAdam vanden kaNNin uLLana vokkinnadE

Does this have anything to do with the vallina Ra following the 'n' sound?
The pronunciation pattern is not consistent though.  When we learn to 
chant, are we supposed to learn it as 'vokkinnadE' or 'vokkinRadE'?

2.  When tirumangai AzhwAr tried to steal the ring from either perumal or
tAyAr in the forest, it seems perumAl said "nam kaliyanO?".

What does 'kaliyan' mean?  Is this why tirumangai AzhwAr is called 'kaliyan'?

Kalyani Krishnamachari