Re: Fwd: [SriRangaSri] Clarification

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• February 7, 2003


Dear  SrI VKV:

In response to your two queries , 
I would like to start with your 
second  question on Jeevan Mukthi's
acceptability in VisishtAdhvaitham :

Jeevan Mukthi( achievement of Mukthi,
while still being associated with the body)
is not  accepted by VisishtAdhvaithins. 
Advaitha  accepts it. We reject it.

Swamy  Desikan advances reason why Jeevan
Mukthi is untenable and is a self-contadictory 
concept in His Tatthva Muktha KalApam ( II-73).

The individual continuing with the body after 
realization of Brahman (BrahmAnuvrutthi) is
against the real definition of Mukthi , when
the Jeevan (Aathman) is 100% disassociated 
from the PrANan (vital breath) , sense organs 
AND the Physical body . In the embodied  state ,
Jeevan is connected with PrANan, sense organs and 
the physical body . One  can not justify the two
states (embodied and disembodied ) coexisting .
Linking this contradiction to the trace of avidya
persisting after BrahmAnuvrutthi to justify 
Jeevan Mukthi is unacceptable.  

Regarding your First question , Advaithin believes
that there is  a higher Brahman above SaguNa Brahman 
( One with auspicious a ttributes ). Advaithin describes 
that "higher Brahman" as NirguNa/NirvisEsha/Para Brahman.
SaguNa Brahman is the SavisEsha/Apara/lower Brahman
in their system. 

VisishtAdhvaitham does not subscribe to the theory
of TWO Brahmans , one lower and another higher.
Acharya RaamAnujA (in Jijn~AsadhikaraNam section
of SrI BhAshyam) and  Swamy Desikan in his 
Satha DhUshaNi has dismissed conclusively the theory
of two Brahmans and have established SaguNa Brahman
as the only  Brahman, which is the same as the personal 
God , SrIman NarayaNan.This is  a central doctrine
of VisishtAdhvaitham . 

V.Sadagopan   
 
>Dear Members,
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>Can the member/s clarify the following please ?
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>1. In Advaita they call Brahman as infinite / without form / without qualities
etc (NIRGUN)- In Visishtadvaita Do we call The Same Supreme Divine as " Narayana".


>2. What is the difference between "Jeevan Mukti" and " Moksha" - Does the concept
of Jeevan Mukti accepted under Visishtadvaita  
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>Thank you
>VKV.
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