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From: Thirumalai Anandanpillai (tananda_at_cp.uswc.uswest.com)
Date: Thu Dec 28 1995 - 09:08:34 PST
Subject: Re: Murugan and thirumangai aazhvaar > thirumangai was born on karthikai month karthikai star and is "karthikEyan" > Murugan is also "karthikEyan". > > thirumangai is "kaliyan", Murugan is "kali yuga varadhan". > > Both carry vEl. I suppose one can call thirumangai as "vElan." > Could they have been the same person? No. The reason why Thirumangai aazhvaar has a vEl is as follows: After thirumangai aazhvaar became a Vaishnavite, he undertook a pilgrimage of the divya desams. When he came back and went through his home town area, all the people there paid great respect to him. A naayanmaar who was in the town was amazed by this and he challenged aazhvaar to a debate and aazhvaar won. The naayanmaar presented the aazhvaar with a vEl on this occasion. That is why aazhvaar carries the vEL and is called kaliyan Varadhan