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Date: Mon Dec 18 1995 - 21:27:48 PST
Mani said: >>I should point out that this timeline does not >>exist in the Bible either. It was the invention >>of one Bishop Ussher a few hundred years ago. He >>did some interesting mathematics to arrive at >>the 4004 B.C. figure. This is true. There is no mention of date of creation as such in the Bible. However, the Bible lists geneology from Adam down to Jesus. If we assume that there are no lapses(everyone was mentioned) then the Math is quite obvious. Roughly 100 years per 3-4 generation. Also, the Bible gives the life span of the descendants from Adam to Noah. Thus, we can easily calculate the timing of flood with respect to creation of Adam. This is roughly 1000 years from the time of creation(Adam). Mani also said: >>Note that the flood myth is entirely absent in the >>the oldest available strata of Indian religious >>literature, the Rg Veda, Brahmanas, and Upanishads. Purans talk about flood and Matsya Avataram, Manu rescuing the life with the help of Matsya, akin to Noah of the Bible. Varaha avataram is about the lord as Varaha lifting the mother earth out of water. Vedas also have some texts which say that everything was covered by water (I don't recall the reference now). Also, the Hiranya Garbha hymn mentions of high waters as briefly described below: Hiranyagarbha (the Golden Embryo) Hymn (Rig Veda 10.121) This Hymn is semi-speculative and introduces two terms for the creator, Hiranyagharba and Prajapati (the progenitor). In the beginning the Golden Embryo arose. When the high waters came pregnant with the embryo that is everything, bringing forth fire. He arose from that as the one life's breath of the gods. Once He was born, He was the lord of creation. He is the God to whom we should pay oblations to. -K. Sreekrishna I would like to add: All myths and folk lores perhaps have some basis which we have not figured out. I am just trying to speculate a possible synchrony here between Biblical age and age of Kali Yuga.