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Re: Re amen and Om

From: Raja Krishnasamy (
Date: Thu Aug 05 1999 - 09:27:37 PDT

Just an interesting distraction:

In Hindusthani which is a confluence of the indian Dhrupad (which has
origins in the vEdAs) and Persian music, rAg yaman is supposed to
represented auspiciousness, and I was at a Dhrupad mElA in Banares over 15
years ago, when noted Dhrupad musician UstAd ziAuddin dAgar discussed the
origin of the name and if memory serves me right, he derived it in the
following geneological (if I can use the word here) tree.

Aum -->  aam ->  AmIn -> aman -> yaman

Just another data point for your observation.


Raja Krishnasamy

"A. Bharat" wrote:

> Mani writes:
> It would indeed be a strange metamorphosis for a composite syllable
> used so precisely in a religious context and treasured so carefully to
> have transformed into the multisyllabic "amen".
>                  *******
> However it is quite evident that both "Amen" and "Ameen" are
> synonyms of "Aam" which exists both in Tamil and Sanskrit;
> and was the universal response of assent for man, be he of
> Indo-European or Semetic origin.
>     But what is more interesting is that "Aam" and "Om"
> were used interchangeably  for "yes" as seen in Sanskrit literature
> AND Divyaprabandha commentaries! Hence clearly it was in
> the spoken language of our forefathers during the past
> two milenniums.
> EmberumAnAr TiruvaDigaLE SaraNam!
> aDiyEn