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Re: MangaaLya Stavam

From: Madhavakkannan V (
Date: Tue Aug 14 2001 - 17:03:32 PDT

SrImathE Gopaladesika Mahadesikaya namah:
Dear Sri TCA Venkatesan,

With deu regards to what you indicated beautifully, I would like to metion 
that that i have heard very often from our Simhapuri Sri Hari Swamin:

It appears Sri Bhagavath Ramanuja used to mention that:
After one's performance of SaraNagathy at the feet of Lord,
1. if one worries about his mOksham, (Athma vichaaram) that implies he lacks 
mahAviswAsam (unconditional and unfliching faith) on Him.. and
2. If one worries about his current life, the job, children's education, 
marriage, etc., etc., (the dhEha viccharam) then he is an athiest.. (!)

Naturally so, Sri KooratthAzhwAn never asked for even regaining his sight 
(and did after being pestered by Sri Ramanujacharya with so much effort) and 
asked for jnAna kkaNN (and physical eyesight) afterall..

(So am I doing it?- Sshhhhh...Don't ask... )

Narayana Narayana
NarayaNa dAsan madhavakkannan

you wrote:

Dear Sri Mani and others,

I believe that it is all in the attitude. Even
after one has performed Saranagati, one cannot
rest; instead one's duties continue on. Rather
than going into a long discussion on what I mean
by attitude, adiyEn will pose two positions.

1) I pray to the Lord to provide me with wealth
and other mangaLams, not for my own betterment,
but so that I may serve Him better; for example,
I can donate more to His temples and serve more
of His devotees.

2) I will not pray to Him for anything, as I know
He will provide me with what I need to do, and if
He provides with me such wealth then I will spend
even more on Him and His kainkaryam.

Which of these two positions is appropriate? Or,
is one position to be considered superior to the

In this context, the anecdotes that have been
posted in these groups in the past, of Sri Parasara
Bhattar's life and his behaviour are important
lessons for us.

adiyEn madhurakavi dAsan
TCA Venkatesan

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