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From: B N SURESH 's ACCOUNT (bnsuresh_at_easi.soft.net)
Date: Fri Apr 23 1999 - 07:54:15 PDT
Sri Raamaanuja tiruvadigale sharanam Respected members, I am happy to know Mr.apraman ,who has joined the bhakti list. His question is very relevant and i will try to answer it to the best of my knowledge. His question is as follows :- In Ur Reply to Mr.Suresh's Questions about Bhagavadgeetha and kainkaryam. You have referred the sentence "suhridam attains peace after knowing the friend of all - Lord Krishna". But Krishna in Geetha has said(Pardon me I do not remember the chapter and that only one in millions aspire for sidhi. Of them only one in million attains sidhi and of them only one in million knowns krishna. If that is the case, being the greatest sinner how can i ever understand him. All our Acharyas and other Purushas who tasted and enjoyed Krishna are Avatars of Permul's Various Angams ans so they cannot be classified just under jeeva . What is part of Jeeva then in reaching Krishna ? Since everything rests with Krishna(either to bless us with devotion or to throw us in unending Samsara) what should we do? The answer is as follows :- The following gives a list of assurances and the role to be played by a jiva in bondage striving for moksha, which are from bhagavad geeta itself. 1. In the third chapter of geetha,krishna says that "even a worst sinner can cross the sea of samsara by Knowledge of self "and as Mr.Kalale has rightly pointed out that ,even for knowing the self the jiva requires the lord's support. But still we can see that an initial sincere effort in the direction of knowing the self is required on the part of the jiva. Also note that even the worst sinner is guarenteed a good end and so it is not only avataara purusaas who alone are guarenteed a good end . 2. In the sixth chapter, Krishna assures arjuna that even a yogi who slips in the right performance of yoga will be guarenteed a good end in subsequent births. In short he clearly mentions " No one who does Good will ever come to a sad end". 3. In the seventh chapter krishna says that " Those who take refuge in me cross maaya". This implies the erring bounded self has to take refuge in krishna. 4. In chapters dealing with bhakti yoga , Krishna clearly mentions to arjuna that he sees to it that his devotees come to an good end. 5. In sixteenth chapter, Krishna says that a life confirming to do's and dont's of shaastras on the part of jiva assures him success in this world and the next. 6. In the eighteenth chapter, krishna says to Arjuna ( Here Krishna seems to be a little serious and strict), " Thinking in your mind that the self is sub-servient to me, do all works for me and ......., Iam telling all this only for your good O Arjuna, Listen to this and do the same else you will perish". The above slokhas come just before the 64th shlokha or charma shlokha. I remember there are still many places in geetha, where assurances to jiva and what exactly he has to do are given. Probably learned members like Mr.Kalale can throw more light on the same. Thanking you. With Regards B.N.Suresh.