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From: Anand Karalapakkam (
Date: Tue Apr 06 1999 - 15:36:43 PDT

Sri Lakshminrusimha ParabrahmaNE namaha
Sri Lakshminrusimha divya pAdukA sEvaka SrivaNN-
SatakOpa Sri nArAyaNa yateendra mahAdESikAya namaha

Dear Sri Sridharan,
namO nArAyaNA.

> I had also posed the question to a Vaishnavite sanyasi of Guadia
> persuation and quote below his response to my querry for members'
> information please.  Again thanks for the responses.
>         "In response to your question about Prapathi, it is a fact that the
> sins of the disciple are eradicated by that process. In turn, the sins are
> transferred to the diksa-guru. Again, it is a fact that "he takes the sins
> of his new disciple upon himself".

   First of all, that Gaudiya SanyAsi is refering to "initiation" process
   (parallel to SamASrayanam) ; Prapatti is not SamASrayanam ;
   please refer to the posts on bhakti and prapatti.

   If all the sins are transferred to someone, we can no more be here
   in the material world. Only when the prapanna leaves this body
   and enters into Sri VaikuNTham through the arcirAdi mArgam,
   does all the karmA gets wiped off. SwAmi DeSikan discusses this
   in detail in Srimad Rahasyatraya sAram ( those who are kindly
   disposed to the prapannA who attained moksham will get the
  prapannA's  left out punyams ; those who are antagonistic to the
  prapannA will get the pApams ).

  Sanchita karmAs (those  which hasn't started to yield the effect)
  are eradicted by prapatti. Also, the left over prArabdha karmA
  after leaving this body is destroyed by prapatti. But, prArabdha
  karmA will still be acting (as long as the body exists).

>         You then ask "What is the implication for the aspirant?" The
> implication for the aspirant is that they are obliged to no longer commit
> further sins. According to Padma Purana, there are ten offenses to be
> avoided when calling upon the Lord's holy name for purification. The
> seventh offense listed indicates that it is offense to continue to commit
> sins on the strength of the purification that one has received by calling
> upon the Lord's holy name. In this particular case, for having received
> the eradication of one's past sins by the process of Prapathi, one should
> likewise refrain from further sins."

  adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan
  ananthapadmanAbha dAsan